Woman's Weekly (UK),
November 20, 1995
Keanu's wild child love
by Kate Russell
Can Hollywood's most private man handle Britain's wildest woman?
Keanu Reeves is planning to break the habit of a lifetime and go public
about his love affair with blonde British wild child Amanda De Cadenet. In the past Keanu has shrouded his private life in
secrecy, but friends say he's so crazy about Amanda that he can't stay silent any longer.
"They've kept their relationship quiet so far but it looks as if they're
ready to go public," says one.
Shortly before he flew to New Zealand, to perform with his band Dogstar,
superstar Keanu (30) was spotted enjoying an intimate motorbike ride with Amanda. The pair then sat right out in the open
at a Beverly Hills pavement café and shared a drink or two.
"Keanu's just mad about her - he has to be, to be seen out with her,
because he's such a private guy," says a friend.
The first public glimpse of Hollywood's hottest new couple came some
weeks ago at the premiere of a new play, Four Dogs And A Bone, Amanda was snapped at the wheel of her Mercedes as she
drove Keanu away from curious photographers who'd only ever seen him out in the past with his sister.
Friends reveal that this was hardly a first date - the couple have
been meeting secretly ever since Amanda split from her husband, Duran Duran heart-throb John Taylor, early this year.
Keanu - who was interviewed by Mai FM's Robbie Rakete and Paul Holmes
while in Auckland - has certainly earned his reputation for discretion. He shuns the limelight and no longer reads any articles
written about him. "I get too angry at being misrepresented, misquoted, manipulated, being put on a pedestal and then knocked
He also tends to keep a low profile in Hollywood. "I hate being the
centre of attention and I loathe my private life being discussed in public," he insists.
"I've never been part of the party scene - I don't have enough personality.
And I really hate the idea of being recognized everywhere I go."
The same can hardly be said of notorious Amanda who's famous for packing
more living into her 23 years than most people manage in 70.
ˇ At 12 she dyed her hair
ˇ At 13 she smoked dope
ˇ At 14 she became a fixture
on the London party scene
ˇ At 15 she was taken into
care by the local council
ˇ At 17 she posed for Playboy,
met John and became a TV presenter on the cult youth show The Word
ˇ At 19 she became pregnant
and decided to marry John
ˇ At 20 she moved to Los
Angeles in search of movie stardom.
In the three years since then, she's concentrated on bringing up her
daughter Atlanta and finding small parts in several film - the latest being a role in Four Rooms, directed by Quentin
Tarantino. Her antics have including posing for photographs totally naked from the waist down. "It's all about being in control
of your sexuality," she pouts.
Before her marriage break-up, Amanda was romantically linked to a series
of stars, including Jack Nicholson, Liam Neeson and Ashly Hamilton.
"I fall in love so easily," she says, "Once in a while I get carried
away - I get irresponsible.
"I have lots of eligible men friends and, for me, intimacy isn't difficult."
But Keanu, it seems, is special.
"I can go over and see Keanu and talk to him about the most truthful
and honest things about myself," she admits, "I don't have to hide anything."
The one thing that's certain is that, for the moment, neither she nor
Keanu is interested in marriage.
"My parents split up when I was young and I've seen nothing to recommend
marriage," says Keanu firmly, "I expect to be single for quite a while yet."
As for Amanda, she's decided she needs some time to grow up alone.
"I have my own life to follow, my own path," she insists. "I just really
want to work."
But neither of them is worried
that the vast differences in their personalities will make a long-term relationship impossible. "Opposites do attract," says
She's only 30, but beautiful bad girl Amanda
De Cadenet has long sought the limelight with the dedication of a green plant. Now, the actress-turned-L.A.-based photographer,
who was once married to John Taylor of Duran Duran, is cashing in on her latest rock-star fling. She has just made a deal
with PowerHouse, the art-book publisher, for "Just a Boy" — a book of photos of Nick Valensi, the 21-year-old guitarist
with New York's hottest band, the Strokes.
De Cadenet, the naughty daughter of a sports-car-racing French duke,
ran away from boarding school half a life ago and gained infamy by dancing on nightclub tables at age 14. She posed for Playboy
as a teen, divorced at 22 (after having a daughter she named Atlanta), and then hooked up with the likes of oldster Mick Jagger,
age-appropriate Keanu Reeves, and Nick Kamen, a Levi's jeans model. Along the way, she appeared in a few movies, was the host
of a British TV show called, oddly, "The Word," and was photographed at the 1999 Academy Awards locking lips with Courtney
Love. Different strokes for different folks.
Originally published on February 22, 2003
Wild child Amanda de Cadenet. (interview with actress)(Interview)
Interview, August, 1995, by Courtney Love
One of the
great things about technology - and, in Interview's case, that usually means a tape-recording device - is that it can let
you be a fly on the wall in places that would otherwise be inaccessible to most of us. Well, here's one story where being
a fly on the wall really opened the door. That's because ever since they showed up on Oscar night wearing matching dresses,
Amanda de Cadenet and Courtney Love have been the kind of item that sets everyone abuzz. There were rumors that de Cadenet
- a former English talk show host, the wife of Duran Duran's John Taylor, and, according to the London tabs who chronicled
her teenage years England's "wild child" - and Love were, well, lovers. To get inside their heads, we got inside their bed.
With de Cadenet about to make her acting debut the direction of Quentin Tarantino and Allison Anders in Four Rooms, Love interviewed
de Cadenet while the two of them were lying in bed in Love's Seattle home. Here's the inside scoop on what these two fast
friends have to say for themselves. Oh, they also had a few choice things to say about some other in-the-spotlight subjects
- some of them friendly and some of them not.
Love: We've decided to spend the day in bed, watching movies. The virtues of laying in bed.
Cadenet: It's the only laying that we get. [laughs]
having a Keanu [Reeves] film festival. We've seen some real gems. What else have we got here? We've got Point Break.
definitely the masturbatory Keanu movie. He looks super sexy.
also a precursor to Speed.
then we have one of my favorite movies, [My Own] Private Idaho.
CL: Oh, by
the way, we're having Gus Van Sant and Hal Willner to dinner in about an hour.
we haven't cooked them anything.
CL: No, all
we have is sandwiches in the house.
we've eaten all the cheese.
CL: So we
just have ham. We could serve Gus a ham sandwich and say, "This is for Cowgirls."
But we hear that Gus's new movie totally makes Cowgirls go away. Actually, me and you should be in his next movie.
we could talk him into that tonight. I could put my Fernando Sanchez on. I've now devoted one side of my closet to my actress
the grunge-queen wardrobe.
are my girlie clothes that I'm getting sick of.
is good for me, because now you have bigger tits.
CL: But they're
are real. But they're bigger than my tits. So I get to wear the clothes that you've grown out of.
I'm a growing girl.
magazine cover, she gets bigger. Well, her ego does. Only joking.
CL: I'm going
to get that part in Strip Tease [the Castle Rook film for which Demi Moore is reportedly being paid $12 million to play a
stripper] with the 44DDs. Amanda's up for the part of the southern belle. I'm going to go in for the chick with the snake.
Courtney's been teaching me to strip. Like I need to be shown. [off-mike conversation]
Amanda first got here, I put satin sheets on my bed.
ADC: I was
mortified. I thought only dated '80s rock stars like Steve Tyler slept in satin sheets.
CL: Now we're
lying on a nice cotton duvet, watching our children play with the dog. So, remember when we were hanging out with Quentin
[Tarantino] at the Oscars? It seemed a little tense. I think he thinks I'm a freak.
we'd been to the Vanity Fair thing at Mortons. We were going to leave.
CL: We were
trying to leave, I remember.
ADC: We couldn't
find our fucking car.
CL: And then
we ended up in that room with all the movie stars on the planet. Except for Michael Douglas.
for you. She has a big crash on Michael Douglas.
knows that. On the set of the film I'm working on, somebody put a big poster of him in my honey wagon [bathroom]. Everyone
was giving me all this shit.
don't you ask Michael Douglas about it? Doesn't he have any comments about your crush on him?
CL: I read
in the Hollywood Reporter that he thought it was funny.
probably the first man to find it funny that you had a crush on him. [laughs] They're either scared shitless, or they pretend
it didn't happen. Like what's his name - Trent [Reznor, lead singer for Nine Inch Nails].
say that sacrilegious name in this house. So, what was going on with Quentin?
and I were in the movie-star room and Quentin was sitting at the table. But I was getting really weird vibes from this crazy
lady at the table, who of course turned out to be yours fucking truly, Lynn Hirschberg [who wrote a Vanity Fair article about
CL that CL has publicly disclaimed]. This woman was looking like she hated you.
CL: I just
thought she was a bitchy manager.
there were three of the directors from Four Rooms sitting at the table - Alex Rockwell, Robert Rodriguez, and Quentin [the
fourth is Allison Anders]. And Robert was like, "Look, it's our goddess."
CL: So you
play a goddess in a PVC rubber suit in Four Rooms. Is that it?
not exactly PVC. But I play a virgin goddess. Basically, these witches are trying to resurrect me because a jealous rival
turned me into a rock on my wedding night. Not many women get to be a virgin for a second time.
being one of the witches.
she's in Four Rooms. I actually play her goddess in the movie.
CL: I think
that everything she did was so goth this season, don't you? Like black Betty Page shoes and fetish stuff.
is what I wear in the flashback scenes in Four Rooms.
CL: Do you
remember, at the Brixton Academy concert [in London] when I had to take off my shoes because I had these Betty Page-like Cuban
stookings on and they were bagging, like mommy's got elephant ankles. So I stopped the show to take off my stockings.
ADC: It wouldn't
have made a difference to the audience. Your clothes were off by the end of the show anyway.
they were ripped off.
this is about me, not you.
This is about the joys of staying in bed and getting up once in a while to do a movie or a show. And playing with the Beans
[nickname of ADC'S daughter Atlanta, and middle name of CL'S daughter Frances Bean].
ADC: I know.
John [Taylor, de Cadenet's husband] always asks me, "What do you and Courtney talk about for four hours on the telephone every
not talking about it on this tape, that's for damn sure.
ADC: I know.
CL: All right.
Let's talk about on-line life. We were just discussing it in the car - that it's perfect for addictive personalities.
we certainly are.
almost like masturbating. We've both gotten laid because of on-line. [laughs]
was a unique experience.
was weird - and good.
ADC: I didn't
know how my on-line guy looked.
sent a photo.
ADC: I didn't
have a photo. But I knew he was in this band. And I checked him out through all my friends. Then I was in a record store and
I saw the name of his album. And I was like, "Fucking hell. This must be the guy."
Don't get into names, Amanda.
O.K. So on-line has been good for us in a perverse way.
CL: But people
make this huge deal about artists, celebs, whatever, being on-line. I know that you mentioned the devil Trent. He was kicked
off two on-line services because nobody believed that -
ADC: It was
CL: The god
of darkness, Satan, the Devil, who sits around and reads the sports pages all day.
ADC: He does?
How very un-Trent.
CL: He fucking
does. He's a beer-drinking Joe.
take him to Jack Nicholson's to watch the [basketball] game.
was great of you to take me out to Jack's. Can I mention that?
took me up to Jack Nicholson's, and her nipple popped out, and I covered it up. Jack said, "Why did you do that?" [laughter]
ADC: I guess
he's seen nipples before.
very sweet. He's full of all these grimaces and winks and wriggles and wisdom. How did you meet him?
ADC: In London.
I was having dinner with supermodels.
CL: Was he
ADC: He was.
I had dinner with my friends, and then Jack and I ended up going out later that night. We've been friends for a few years.
Everyone thinks Jack's a lecherous old man, but he's not. He's a sweet gentleman. He's totally respectful. He's more like
a dad to me.
he is. And he's, like, the most antifeminist man I've ever met. But his antifeminism almost meets my feminism head-on. I mean,
we almost think alike.
ADC: I know.
But you'll never figure him out, so don't even try.
CL: It must
have been kind of hard growing up in London, in a culture where there are, like, eleven tabloids that come out each day.
why I moved. Every time I got my hair cut, it was a big deal. And when I was pregnant, I got so much shit. Headlines like
AMANDA DE FLABBENET.
tits were huge in those tabloid photos.
ADC: I know.
were 44DD. Like yours. [laughs] Did you ever have anything -
CL: No, I
don't have anything in mine, O.K.? So, that's my technical thing. And I noticed on all the tabloid shows, all the women sit
there like Tabitha Soren and lift their eyebrows and go, "She had a lift," and smirk. It's like, "Honey, lifts exist. Live
with it." Tabitha, you should get one yourself, you thin-lipped little Republican witch.
about witches -
reading The Satanic Witch [by Anton Szandor LaVey] on how to catch a man. There's one thing in here about "By His Automobile
Ye Shall Know Him," which is like, Don't dress to clash with his car. That means, if you're going out with Trent, don't wear
silver, because his Porsche is silver. [laughs] Sorry. O.K., here are some of the chapters - "The High Heel," "On Prostitutes
and Pentagrams," "Bitchcraft."
should call your next album that - Bitchcraft.
to Charm a Married Man." Oh, let's not get into that. "The Lesbian Witch."
us. The Lipstick Lesbians - not.
CL: The lesbians
who haven't even touched each other. Because I'm not a lesbian, thank you very much. But I think that it was kind of cool
when we went together to the Oscar parties. Somebody said, "You guys made history as the first two women to actually go on
a date to the Oscars." I have a friend who's in a band, and they flew him out to the Oscars to be this actress's date. Talk
about a beard. I didn't know beards really existed.
do. It's like the casting couch. People always ask me if that exists, and I have no fucking idea. I've never encountered the
I slept with a producer once 'cause I thought he was really nice. It was after I got the part. And this thing went on for
like a year.
but that's not the casting couch. The casting-couch mentality is more like the guy in the car park today. He wanted you to
give him a blow job so we didn't have to pay our two-dollar parking ticket. And you were like, "Yeah, right. I'm going to
give you a blow job for two dollars."
CL: All these
people that recognize me now, it scares the hell out of me.
scary thing I've discovered is that people always know your face because of all the really bad shit, not because of the good
CL: So, in
your case, Amanda, what is the really bad shit? Like getting married when you were seven or something?
getting slammed for having a career and an opinion at fourteen, and then getting married really young to a rock star and having
a baby. I hosted this really hip music show called The Word when I was seventeen. Actually, that's when I first heard about
you. Nirvana was on the show, and Kurt was saying you were the best fuck he'd ever had. Anyway, I think people just felt threatened
you should read the chapter in The Satanic Witch bible called "Learn to Be Stupid."
it's going to take more than a chapter in a book. Or maybe not, according to the tabloids!
You know, my first best friend was totally obsessed with your husband, John. And so, when I met him, I wanted to call her
was the night that he baby-sat the Beans. We have a really big bed in London, and John was reading them stories in bed while
they were watching Postman Pat videos. The girls fell asleep in his bed. So he slept in the kiddie bed in Atlanta's room.
He's such an amazing dad. [break in tape]
CL: So I
met you officially at a party with Billy Pumpkin [Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins] and Michael Stipe.
CL: And then
I met you again, standing by the jukebox at Jones [a restaurant in LA.]. Every time I go in there, the girls always think
it's cool to play Nirvana, because I always go in wIth somebody quote "hot" unquote. But it's one thing to sit there at Jones
listening to your husband's music. It's quite another one when your fucking husband is sitting in the comer of your room -
ADC: In a
you saw that baggie you probably thought that the maid had missed the dust.
I'll tell you what I thought. I thought it was like the hugest pile of drags I'd ever seen in my life. 'Cause it's white.
I was like, "Whoa, what is this little hidden stash I've found?"
Kurt. He's going to go up to the graveyard soon, so that the pilgrimage will start. But let's get back to you. You packed
your bags when Atlanta was three months old and just got out of England. And you said, "I'm going to go be a fucking actress
in L.A." You've been studying with Howard Fine for two years, who I'm not good enough for, but you are.
a very fine acting teacher.
CL: He teaches
Bradley [Pitt], by the way.
ADC: He teaches
all the cute boys. But that's not the only reason I go to his class.
[Diaz] also has someone who's really good. She's going to give me his name.
let's see her next movie [Feeling Minnesota] before we go to her for references.
CL: Oh, come
on. Don't be catty.
ADC: I like
Cameron. She's real sweet. We had a good gossip at the Batman [Forever] premiere a couple of days ago. But I just wanted the
CL: I wanted
the part [in Feeling Minnesota], too. But Amanda, things happen for a reason. Remember I was telling you how, back when I
was in my loser years, wearing black leggings and the long rayon shirts because I was stripping, and I had my big hair thing,
all the girls who were trying to be alternative, wearing black and -
didn't earn any money.
didn't earn a dime. You had to wear, like, white pumps and pink lipstick and have a name like Kelly. It was so disgusting.
was your name then?
I was Crystal for a long time.
Christie - you know, everything.
when you were stripping at Jumbo's.
I made that place really hip. They put my Rolling Stone cover up behind the fucking bar. And now there's that whole strip
of strip clubs out by the airport. It's like, NUDE NUDE NUDE.
what we were talking about with Jack [Nicholson] the other night.
ADC: He said,
"Oh, I've seen that sign." [laughs]
Like he's never been in there.
ADC: It was
funny. I was like, "You've seen it? You probably stop by there on the way to the airport all the time."
CL: I'm sure.
anyway, you've got to stop talking about you.
CL: All right.
So, you did this movie, Four Rooms. How was the audition? Were you surprised that you got the part?
the film is a collaboration between four directors. And when they were each writing it, they had the people in mind that they
were going to use. So they wrote the part for me. I feel really fucking lucky that the first movie I'm going to do involves
really amazing people - actors and directors. Because the kind of films that I'm into are from Fellini and Truffaut to Scorsese.
CL: Not Point
ADC: I can
never make it through those action movies.
I've seen Speed, like, sixty-five times. If I'm on tour, it's the only thing I watch.
ADC: I fell
asleep watching it on the airplane.
CL: I can't
believe you weren't intrigued by that movie. How about When a Man Loves a Woman? What did you think of that movie?
ADC: I watched
that on the plane as well. I liked it. I felt bad for the kids, though. I probably related to their situation [watching their
parents' marriage nearly fall apart because of alcoholism]. It made me cry.
are all these horrible rumors about your marriage, but I hear that your marriage is fine.
know how my marriage is. You hear about it on a daily basis from me when I phone you.
is a very sacred institution, and it needs to be respected. I'm sick of divorces.
I lived through one as a kid, and it made me look at my own life and the young people that I've been around. Lately, I've
realized how fucking dysfunctional a lot of people are, in large part due to their upbringing and their parents' divorces.
I don't want that for me or for my child. And I don't think I'm going to ever meet anybody that I love as much as John. I've
been with him six years.
happens when you marry so young is that the whole lust and instant rush thing - it goes away. But what replaces it in a successful
marriage - I mean, I have, like, every how-to book on making your marriage work on the planet downstairs and you can borrow
them all, because I'm not married anymore - what replaces it is this really warm, great companionship.
what I was reading in The Road Less Traveled. It talks about when the quote-unquote lust is over and when true love has the
opportunity to live. People usually say, "Oh, fuck it, I'm not getting laid every day. This isn't exciting."
that four-year mammal cycle, because we're so close to animals anyway. They mate, they have the child, they nurture the child,
they split up.
well, this is John's whole theory. That women come along and they borrow your sperm 'cause they think you're genetically correct.
CL: Oh well,
we are both guilty of that one.
I met John and, besides the fact that I thought he was really sexy and sweet and smart and kind and loving ...
CL: You wanted
his damn sperm.
Because I knew he'd be a great father. There's nothing wrong with the idea of "picking your family wisely."
liberals don't breed enough. That's why there are so many Rush Limbaughs in the world. Liberals need to breed. It's not that
hard. It's nine months. You know, just do it. I used to have this fantasy, which is totally gross and whorelike, where I wanted
to have a bunch of different children by different men. But the thing is, each of the sperm creates different children, so
I ended up realizing that, once you've got a good breeder, go for it. Are you going to have more kids?
ADC: I really
want another baby.
CL: Me too.
I don't even want the dad. I've got the perfect situation. I've got the money. You give me your sperm. Fuck it.
kids do need a dad to grow up. They need a male role model.
got a few around.
they need one that's there permanently.
I mean, that's just not the way it is, is it, in my case?
not the way it is right now. But the next child - you know, for Frances as well, it would be better for her to have someone
that's going to be around.
of kids don't have daddies.
ADC: I know.
And the thing is, it's hard enough even when you do have a dad. [break in tape]
CL: So what
are your plans now?
ADC: I did
Four Rooms. And I just did Grace in My Heart, which is an Allison Anders movie. She's one of my few role models.
she doesn't like me very much. Which is weird, because I've only had one encounter with her and it was quite pleasant. It
was just that I refused to be in AA.
She wouldn't get pissy with you just because you wouldn't go to AA.
that's the only encounter I've ever had with her. And I was incredibly polite. But I was also distraught as hell. It was right
after Kristen's [Pfaff, the Hole bassist who died last year of a drug overdose] death. I was a mess. And I did end up going
to an AA meeting, but I didn't like it. I don't take to AA. There's a psychologist who says that in certain people, especially
young artists, the twelve-step program - which was invented in the '30s for blue-collar working males - doesn't really work.
seen it work. You just have to be willing.
CL: But there's
got to be another way. I think that way is through a profound and defined spiritual practice, [one] that's done on a daily
that's kind of what AA gives some people who aren't able to find that spirituality in their lives - the higher power, that
But I'd prefer to go to a monastery and get it right from the source, so that it all unfolds naturally. I'm net in agreement
with the twelve-step programs. Besides, the only time I've ever come close to being raped was by three NA [Narcotics Anonymous]
members on Diet Coke. All right? Because that was their excuse - that they were clean and, therefore, they could be crazy.
I got jumped in this actor's house by a guy I'd known for years, that I trusted, and there was this other guy who was in this
horrendous band, with a huge perm - this was during the Guns 'n Roses L.A. era - and his friend. They put handcuffs on me.
And they had a video camera on. And I was crying so hard that they finally let me go without doing anything to me. But when
I ran out onto the street, with my clothes all bunched in my hands, looking like I'd been raped, people were honking their
horns and screaming shit at me. It was crazy.
in England that would never happen. I worry about Atlanta growing up in L.A., because a lot of the L.A. kids I know, especially
the guys ...
such fuckups. The children of celebrities. [break in tape]
CL: So, my
sister-in-law - in theory, Ms. Barrymore - is known as a big survivor: "I've been through hell and back, ya-di-ya-di-ya-da."
I say "in theory" because she's with Eric [Erlandson, Hole's guitarist], who is my hated brother. No one fights like us. So,
what are you now, twenty-two or twenty-three?
ADC: I was
twenty-three last Friday.
for the fucking flowers, you bitch.
I'm sorry. So, I guess the same could be said about you as Drew, that you're a big survivor. People in the States know the
"wild child" stuff about you, as they called you in the tabloids. How did you become this wild child?
ADC: I don't
know. I think the whole wild child thing happened to me because of the kind of life I had with my family - a lot of adult
experiences at a young age, and probably some internal destructive thing.
you get taken away from your family?
yeah. When I was, like, fourteen. I was going out a lot. But only on school holidays, because I was at boarding school.
CL: And you
were fucking rock stars.
ADC: I wasn't
fucking them, but some of the people I hung out with were rock stars.
CL: How did
you fall into that?
ADC: I was
fourteen, and I was pretty, and I had these big boobs.
CL: I was
fifteen, and I was ugly, and I was also hanging out with rock stars.
there you go. So you can imagine how easy it was for me.
I was also training for the Olympics in gymnastics at that time. My body didn't start growing until I was about thirteen,
and then, within six months, I had this woman's body, and it was a real shock to me because I hadn't developed gradually.
It was just, Boom! My first boyfriend was a bass player, and I've been stuck with musicians ever since.
gay now, right?
There was that one before John who is gay now.
that weird how they turn gay after us. It's because they can't top us, is my theory.
I mean, after me, what other woman is there?
ADC: We haven't
shared lovers yet.
CL: No, we
haven't. I think there was one we were cross-pollinating on, though.
... I mean, if we shared someone, I don't want to have him after you.
CL: But whoever
gets him first makes him wear a rubber, O.K.?
Well, in that case, since you don't like rubbers -
CL: I know.
have him first.
CL: Do you
CL: Oh, O.K.
Did you use rubbers?
My life is more important than getting laid.
CL: Did you
ever not want to?
wants to use one? I always put them on inside out.
Have you ever had one break? [phone rings] Oh, God, you've got to get the phone now.
ADC: Hello. Hey, John. [to CL] It's my husband.